The Hague is a beautiful city and there is much to see, such as the Peace Palace and the Masturodam. But what we didn't expect was to come across Phil Zimmermann, the inventor of PGP (pretty good privacy) when visiting the Hague. After a small introduction on our part he settled with us in a small cafe. Surprised by the unplanned meeting we were pretty interested in Phil Zimmermann and his views. Among other things, we also talked about the possible future of PGP, politics and and everything under the sun and got to know an open and friendly person.